In the Ratfist discussion, someone from Europe posted this:
Well, it depends on the kind of comic. I usually read comics for entertainment and, well, there aren’t any made by the government. I guess if the government decided to make some publicly funded superhero comics, I’d check it out. It’s just a comic.
i confess I have no idea what this page is poking fun at. Government takeover made everyone jump ship because… why? I’m not American, but I thought the latest talking points were about how government workers are overpaid. I don’t know how a government can be that inept as to fail putting a cancer cure that’s already ready into action. Who was elected in Ratfist’s America? Perhaps a highly popular actor who suffers from a degenerative neurological disease?
Personally, I think governments are A) Not supposed to exist to make money and B) Should fund things that can’t necessarily work in the free market for the good of the country. For example, museums, libraries, roads, the army, the FDA and EPA, education, law enforcement, etc.
Heck, I come from a place where power is nationalized, as is healthcare. We get pretty good prices, clean power and the cost of medicine and healthcare is kept reasonable. I mean, when people say the free market makes everything better, I point to the cost of healthcare in the US. What good is the “Best surgery” when only the wealthy can afford it?
Same goes for libraries. Libraries “hurt” the free market, since they’re a free alternative, but they’re highly necessary. Those who can’t afford books should still have access to them. knowledge is something that should be free, as for art and culture. I believe that the goal for humanity right now is to make it possible for everyone to have access to food, clothes, shelter, education, knowledge, information, culture and gainful employment. Even those without money. It’s idealistic, and it will take a very long time before it happens, but that’s why it’s a good goal, in my opinion. Like one of your american presidents said,, things that are worth doing aren’t done because they are easy, they’re done because they’re hard (I’m sorry to the Kennedy family estate for butchering the quote).
Whew… That was a mouthful.
My response was this (I have a strong feeling it will be deleted because Doug TenNapel is a conservative who loves the GOP):
The downside of our political process is that we have this problem separating “good” government programs from “liberal/conservative” titles.
A lot of our problems with the government stem from the fact that good programs and ideas tend to be corrupted or cancelled by political parties who desire to see the other side fail. Both parties of our government don’t seem to understand or care about good programs if they are endorsed by the opposition.
I haven’t been really wanting to bring this up, because of the possible flame war, but the reality is lately the Republican party has been more adamant on dismissing everything proposed – even by their own party and even if it was a great program – if the Democrats laud it. I blame it on the infection called the Tea Party that hosts ultra-conservative narrow-minded people who are good at manipulating the public’s opinion. If we could just get back to where we were more balanced and less stubborn, we’d work it out.
Mind you – I was a Republican for the longest time until recently. I supported them because I believed the message. Now, I don’t understand the message at all.
Granted, I also wrote the next bit as a separate post, in response to his comment that he’s never been to the Smithsonian because it’s government run, and he asked if we’d read a governmetn subsidized comic:
Again, I think the problem lies not in the institution of government. Government in and of itself is not the problem – it’s meant to cover the areas that average American citizens cannot on their own personal dollar. The military, infrastructure, regulation and subsidizing public works that only the wealthy can afford (such as museums and emergency services).
I think the problem is polarization in the government. We could all be content with the role of government if we didn’t stand on two extremes and yank the chain back and forth. If it was moderately empowered and not given to the random veering to liberal or conservative movements.
But like all things – including businesses, religious orders and charities – they are run by humans. And we humans are far from perfect. When people of a certain nature gain power, they tend to abuse it. Even in decently run European countries that suffer less corruption and weird push/pull politics, there’s some problems involved because people are a factor.
I’d read a comic subsidized by the government if it was relevant and written by a good writer. And illustrated by a good artist (or artists). And about something I cared about (not randomness like free comic day comics).
The Smithsonian is awesome. Remember that although it’s subsidized by the government, it’s run by a board of individuals who usually care about history and human achievement. I think that’s where people get confused – something subsidized by the government isn’t always micro-managed by government. There’s thousands of government programs that don’t kowtow to the present political mindset.
I don’t think I’m too off-center about my stance on politics. I am by nature and upbringing a Conservative. But for some reason, that whole title has been twisted into something evil. I don’t understand how Conservative went from being about fiscal responsibility and less interference in public lives to being about narrow-mindedness, infringing on privacy and literally just accusing everyone of being liberal. While being retarded about real issues. I mean, that is what the Republican party has become. Every day, I have to wash the putrid taste out of my mouth because now the Tea Party is taking it a step further in a direction of hatred and irresponsibility in an attempt to wrest power from the “enemy.”
I’ll say it – if you believe in the Tea Party for the social issues and moronic economic policies of people like Ron Paul and Michelle Bachmann, you are hopelessly retarded. If you like the religious fervor of Sarah Palin and the devious manipulations of Donald Trump, then you are even more moronic than I can stand.
Go live somewhere else, for the sake of sane and smart people in America.